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@yogthos When the oil and gas get so scarce/expensive the lifestyle is unattainable by most citizens it'll be over. Iran, drawing from the same pool of oil in the region the saudis etc tap from estimate their peak at about 2040. Gas typically peaks 50 yrs later. Gonna be an intersting century. Problem is US citizens have been identity politic-ed so much there's no chance of them turning on the people who literally set them up. Theyll turn on each other instead. That's already in progress.